[Moderation] Seattle IMC policy is Post Moderation not Pre Moderation

freethepeeps at riseup.net freethepeeps at riseup.net
Tue Sep 25 12:34:21 BST 2012

Whilst we're quoting guidelines and policies, here's some for you Tony:

"we acknowledge that the struggle for a better world takes many forms. The
focus of the Indymedia UK collective is on grassroots politics, actions
and campaigns"

Can you explain how the advert for the Tony Gosling Radio Show meets this

"Through this system of 'Direct Media', Indymedia erodes the dividing line
between reporters and reported, between active producers and passive
audience: people are enabled to speak for themselves."

What does the Tony Gosling Radio show do to erode the "the dividing line
between reporters and reported, between active producers and passive

I agree with MrD that your posts are  spam, and in my opinion they fall
short of the advertising guideline:

Advertising: posts with personal or product promotions.

I therefore think that they should be post-moderated ;-) (unless of course
you can show that they do somehow meet the ethos of the site.



> Thanks MSDM
> I was not aware that UK IMC had shifted from Post Moderation to Pre
> Moderation.
> That's actually a big move away from Seattle vision Intl Indymedia's key
> policies of post moderated open publishing.
> Have these filters been approved by the UK IMC collective? If so where &
> whan?
> That would answer (the non rant) legitimate question about official or
> unofficial which I first put.
> Do these filters work based on IP addresses?
> Are these filters set to pick up any pattern in spam posts?
> Have they been installed with any advice from trusted ISP such as
> Greennet with lots of experience in this area?
> Some possible suggestions:
> 1. Use a captcha on the submission screen if these submissions are by
> robots.
> 2. Usernames and passwords based on email addresses (but approval is an
> extra & easily abusable process to manage).
> 3. If by paid shills then getting a more groovy collective of mods so
> that spam gets hidden quicker seems to be the obvious solution
> In any case surely a universally positive editorial quality control
> change would be to have recorded, displayed only to mods, moderation
> audit trail, with each moderator having their own sign-in so that if
> passwords are stolen or hacked everyone can see which needs changing.
> That would help destroy any suspicions that iffy, unaccountable,
> decisions are being made, which can spread distrust & redce solidarity
> in any collective.
> Just to remind people IMC UK still has a Seattle style Post Moderation
> editorial policy as set out here:
> https://wiki.indymedia.org.uk/Editorial
> "Indymedia UK IMC is an open-publishing platform for news, issues,
> actions and analysis reporting on grassroots, non-corporate,
> non-commercial social justice, environmental and political issues. IMC
> UK is maintained by a network of media activists and groups. IMC stands
> for Independent media centre.
> IMC Mayday is dedicated to the open publishing ethos. This page explains
> how content on the site is generated and how you can contribute.
> IMC Mayday volunteers are moderating the site and collaborate in the
> production of features. Contents on the newswire and calendar are
> generated by anyone who wants to contribute. The open posting guidelines
> below have been created to ensure the integrity of the site.
> Occasionally we choose to hide postings offending the open posting
> guidelines. Because of the 'real time' nature of the newswire, it is not
> possible to monitor its contents 24 hours a day."
> And as we move ever further into the super-rich attack on the poor, and
> social unrest. Individuals' and local autonomous collectives' instant
> access to the newswire is only likely to become more urgent. The long
> term solution will be preventing spam arriving on the newswire in the
> first place rather than
> Yes lots of changes and suggestions all of which would take time and
> expertise, if that's not available then the only solution would seem to
> be that at 3 above ;-) ie more committed people and a greater sense of
> collective mission.
> And if you heard it I hope you enjoyed the Cook interview which serves
> to remind us all just how massively the mainstream media have entirely
> failed us.
> --
>   paralel at fastmail.fm
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012, at 08:40 AM, MrDemeanour wrote:
>> On 24/09/2012 00:51, paralel at fastmail.fm wrote:
>> > This is the third time my posts have been instantly hidden literally
>> > within seconds of being uploaded and I'd like to know if this is an
>> > official or unofficial policy?
>> Neither. Your post was hidden automatically, by a misconceived
>> spam-filter. I've unhidden the post, and I'll try to identify and
>> disable the filter.
>> > It took me quite a while to track down infiltrator of the NF Roger
>> > Cook who was smeared in 2000 by The News Of The World. So this is
>> > what I get:
>> ...the same treatment as anyone else. Please stop ranting here, and
>> maybe consider assuming good faith.
>> --
>> MrD.
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